どのように強い “超本能”ロシは、漫画では?

だから、私たちが見るマンガの最後の章

RoshiはJirenに直面し、RoshiはJirenのヒットを “Ultra
Instinct”スタイルで覆い、RoshiはJirenに彼のパンチから身を守るように強制する。

私はそれが別の連続性を知っているが、アニメでは、スーパーサイヤンブルーがジレンがそれのように自分自身を守るようにする。どのように強い
“超本能”ロシは、漫画では?

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I personally feel this is illogical, inconsistent & terrible
writing
. Even if one were to lowball Goku completely and
consider Roshi to be the strongest human, there is absolutely no
justification as to how one can scale Roshi’s power to even Base
Goku, let alone Super Saiyan Goku. Scaling him to Super Saiyan Blue
Goku in terms of power again is just absurd.

しかしながら、明らかな難易度で、以下の理由によりこれを正当化することは可能である。

  • Firstly, Roshi is definitely not using Ultra Instinct. If Roshi
    has any notion of Ultra Instinct which even Beerus can barely use,
    it would make no sense. I believe, Roshi has watched and studied
    Jiren’s attacks during the course of the tournament and is simply
    countering his moves similar to what Vegeta did in Episode
    122
    .
  • In terms of power, Jiren is nerfed in the manga. In Manga
    Chapter 37
    , where Mastered Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta fights
    Beerus. After Beerus one shot MSSJB Vegeta, he said that Vegeta was
    strong enough to be a God of Destruction in another Universe. Also
    in the God of Destruction tournament, Beerus’s suppressed attacks
    were supposedly strong enough to kill Multiple Gods of Destruction.
    Hence, that would already bring Goku and Vegeta to God of
    Destruction Tier and hence, the power difference between Jiren and
    Goku/Vegeta, might not be as big as it was in the manga. Note: I
    know this still doesn’t justify the fight with Roshi, however, I
    thought it might be an interesting point to include
    .
  • Jiren is not as skilled of a fighter as he seemed to be in
    anime. He only possesses brute strength and raw power. This might
    be hard to believe based on what we see in the anime, however, it
    would be a logical explanation as to why someone like Roshi is
    capable of dodging Jiren’s attacks. We see a worn out Goku being
    able to do the same while fighting Kale and Caulifla. Hence, Roshi
    might be a superior Martial Artist and has the edge on Jiren.
  • In Manga Chapter 29, where Toppo mentions Jiren, he
    stated that Jiren surpassed Vermouth in terms of Battle Power
    Alone
    . Also, in Manga Chapter 36, when Toppo fights
    Vegeta, he stated that in terms of sheer power, Vegeta was on par
    with Goku. Although I’m making an assumption here, I think one
    could logically use this to argue that Toppo perhaps meant while
    Jiren had the raw power superior to Vermouth, he possibly isn’t
    superior in terms of skill and the same applied to Vegeta with
    regard to Goku
    . This could perhaps be used to defend Roshi’s
    fight with Jiren
  • In the anime, when Vegeta keeps persisting and pushing back
    Jiren in Episode 122, Vegeta stated that Jiren was using less power
    and speed than what he used against Goku. Also in the early phase
    of their fight, Jiren did seem very uninterested in fighting Vegeta
    and kept considering him to be persistent and annoying. This
    technically lead to Jiren lowering his guard enough for Vegeta to
    land 2 solid blows. Jiren might possibly feel the same way about
    Roshi and substantially lets his guard down. If you watch Episode
    122, Jiren initially treats Vegeta like a fly and simply just swats
    him away twice. He might be possibly trying to do the same against
    Roshi who obviously is putting a lot more effort and trying to
    capitalize on the same.
  • Even if you look at the scans, Jiren doesn’t really seem hurt
    or injured or anything as such. He seems more annoyed than anything
    and is obviously uninterested in fighting Roshi and simply trying
    to knock him away(While completely underestimating his fighting
    experience).
  • Finally, I highly doubt this is a reason, however, Jiren might
    possibly be afraid of killing Roshi and possibly finding it hard to
    suppress himself to a level capable of knocking out Roshi without
    killing him.

結論として、マンガのキャラクターは、アニメと大きく異なるスケールのパワーです。マンガのキャラクターとアニメのキャラクターを比較しないほうがいいと思う。私は、ロシを優先して、同じことを正当化する2つの可能性が最も高い理由は、ジレンが漫画に浮かぶことだと信じています。おそらく力の面ではなく、技術面ではおそらくRoshiはより良い技術者かもしれません。ジレンに賛成して、彼は単にロシを迷惑にし、彼と戦うことに関心がなく、彼を傷つけることなく(彼のスキルを厳しく過小評価する)彼を押しのけようとしているだけで、ロシはそれを利用している。

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