質問に答える

Ryukは死のノートで殺されることができますか?

Netflix Death Noteの映画を見た後、私は興味深い質問を残しました。

ムービー中(メモリから)

Light>; What if I write your name into the death note?
Ryuk>; Ha! I would like to see you try. Furthest someone got was two letters.

これも元の漫画/アニメシリーズの可能性でしたか?それとも、映画にとってまったく元の何か?

既に同様の質問があるようです。死刑判決で死神を殺す方法はありますか?しかし、これは、単に死のノートの間接的な使用をカバーし、直接それを書き留めていない(その質問のopはソースなしで暴露されているように見える)

ベストアンサー

この特定の質問については、アニメやマンガに決定的な情報はありません。だから、死神を死神で殺すことは、可能かもしれませんが、理論的には。しかし、それにかかわらず、実際には、人間が行うことは不可能です。理由は次のとおりです。

You don’t have their name. Humans have no way
of verifying a Shinigami’s true name, much less its spelling.
Correct spelling using the script in which the name is “officially”
written does seem to be required. Shinigami vision, which always
shows the name needed to kill, always shows the “official”
spelling. For example, when Misa views Light’s name, it shows up
not as the English word it comes from, and not as the kana
approximation, but as the official kanji character, presumably
because that’s the way it is on his documents/how he likes to spell
it, etc. Even though this spelling makes her confused as to how to
pronounce it (she initially reads it as “tsuki” in the anime). On
the other hand, the names of Western characters always show up in
Western script, not in Japanese approximation. The Shinigami would
have their own way of spelling their names as well. According to
the manga creators, each Shinigami has their “own written
language”, and some even use pictures (says the wiki here:
deathnote.wikia.com/wiki/Shinigami). And misspellings are not
allowed: after 4 misspellings the target becomes immune from that
Death Note, and misspelling it knowingly more than 4 times (such as
deliberate trial and error) kills the Note’s owner (Rule XXXV.1).
Even with the Shinigami eye deal, Shinigami names don’t seem to
show up, from what I’ve seen in the anime. So even assuming
the Shinigami is stupid enough to tell you their real, full name,
good luck explaining to them why you need it spelled, in their
native language
.

You don’t have their face. You need to
visualize a face to kill. Many Shinigami seem to wear masks/makeup
that cover most of their faces. Who knows if that’s their actual
true face or just a costume? Again, good luck asking them and
getting an honest answer.

No cause of death. Ok, this one is a little
complicated, but here goes… The conditions of death must be
“physically possible” (Rule VI.1). If an impossible cause of death
is listed, or if none is specified, the cause reverts to the
default: a deadly heart attack (Rule I.4). In other words, the
person’s blood is no longer being pumped and they quickly suffer
brain death, organ failure, etc., from lack of oxygen/nutrients.
But we know for a fact that it is physically impossible to kill a
Shinigami this way. They are spiritual beings that are able to
phase in and out of the material world and don’t need to eat, so
assuming they even have such an organ as a heart, lack of physical
pumping from it would not kill them. Thus it is physically
impossible to kill a Shinigami with the known DEFAULT
cause
.

So you have to SPECIFY some other cause that is
actually known to kill Shinigami. The only way we know is to make
them kill someone with their Note to extend another human’s life
(Rule XVII.1). But that won’t work either.
Here’s why:

A. Bystander deaths are not allowed. If you
make the Shinigami write down a random human’s name, you run into
Rule X.2, which prevents your Death Note entry from being the
direct cause of death of anyone other than the people you
specifically listed by name.

B. Double entries are not allowed. If you try
to work around that by specifying the name of the human
the Shinigami is to kill, you run into Rule XV.1, which states that
if a name is written in 2 Death Notes, only the first entry written
takes effect. So the Shinigami’s attempt to re-enter the person’s
name will be void, no harm no foul, the Shinigami lives. Even if
you try to force them to do a split entry with you (allowed in Rule
XXXII.1), YOU initiate the split entry, the human becomes YOUR
victim, the Shinigami’s Note in NOT the cause of death (yours is),
so the Shinigami is still not responsible.

(or maybe even without it). That would
most likely be the Shinigami king
, possibly some of the
higher ranking Shinigami. Your only real option is tricking
the Shinigami
into doing something stupid like giving up
their life voluntarily or getting into big trouble with their
higher-ups (they do have a death penalty, per Rule XLVI.1).

(すべてのルールはこちら: http://deathnote.wikia.com/wiki/Rules_of_the_Death_Note

Incidentally, the same basic idea applies to the Netflix
movie version of Ryuk.
We don’t know anything pertinent
about him either. He may threaten to kill anyone who writes his
name, just because he’s miffed, but that doesn’t mean they have the
ability to actually do it. In fact, someone did write “don’t
trust Ryuk
” on the actual parchment pages of the Death Note,
so technically he should be dead, because his name was put
down in the Note. So apparently it doesn’t work on
him.

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